Talk:ND-110 Satellite 9883.21238 - Revision history

TArntsen: Minor clarification

2016-09-29T11:11:57Z

Minor clarification

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	Got it booting! The memory card was at 0 0 1, not 0 0 0 - what I remembered was the LEDs which are 0 0 0. The system is still a bit finicky at poweron, it needed three tries before the console&panel responded.		Got it booting! The memory card was at 0 0 1, not 0 0 0 - what I remembered was the LEDs which are 0 0 0. The system is still a bit finicky at poweron, it needed three tries before the console&panel responded.
	Now the problem is UE.. User Environment started at the console, and IIRC UE uses a different set of passwords - I never used that abomination UE, so I'm not sure. But certainly it doesn't recognise user system and the system password. So for the moment I'm stuck. I can continue when I'm back ~~home~~. Obviously I would like a clean shutdown though.. which needs a login! :-) --[[User:TArntsen\|TArntsen]] ([[User talk:TArntsen\|talk]]) 14:37, 26 September 2016 (UTC)		Now the problem is UE.. User Environment started at the console, and IIRC UE uses a different set of passwords - I never used that abomination UE, so I'm not sure. But certainly it doesn't recognise user system and the system password. So for the moment I'm stuck. I can continue when I'm back from Japan. Obviously I would like a clean shutdown though.. which needs a login! :-) --[[User:TArntsen\|TArntsen]] ([[User talk:TArntsen\|talk]]) 14:37, 26 September 2016 (UTC)

TArntsen: BV

2016-09-26T14:37:12Z

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	:Ok, thanks! I will try without those other boards (no PIOC, but I've got two terminal boards - I can presumably run with only the SCSI, Memory and CPU boards).		:Ok, thanks! I will try without those other boards (no PIOC, but I've got two terminal boards - I can presumably run with only the SCSI, Memory and CPU boards).
	:--[[User:TArntsen\|TArntsen]] ([[User talk:TArntsen\|talk]]) 12:45, 26 September 2016 (UTC)		:--[[User:TArntsen\|TArntsen]] ([[User talk:TArntsen\|talk]]) 12:45, 26 September 2016 (UTC)
			Got it booting! The memory card was at 0 0 1, not 0 0 0 - what I remembered was the LEDs which are 0 0 0. The system is still a bit finicky at poweron, it needed three tries before the console&panel responded.
			Now the problem is UE.. User Environment started at the console, and IIRC UE uses a different set of passwords - I never used that abomination UE, so I'm not sure. But certainly it doesn't recognise user system and the system password. So for the moment I'm stuck. I can continue when I'm back home. Obviously I would like a clean shutdown though.. which needs a login! :-) --[[User:TArntsen\|TArntsen]] ([[User talk:TArntsen\|talk]]) 14:37, 26 September 2016 (UTC)


	== Hard drive - figure out SCSI parameters ==		== Hard drive - figure out SCSI parameters ==

TArntsen: /* Boot problems */

2016-09-26T12:45:29Z

Boot problems

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	* Thumb wheels on SCSI FLOPPY 0 0 7		* Thumb wheels on SCSI FLOPPY 0 0 7
	* Thumb wheels on memory card 0 0 0		* Thumb wheels on memory card 0 0 0
			:I'm not at the machine right now, but the CPU thumb wheel is currently at 9 (the ALD switch). 30.003.7 says 'No loading done' for this position, but the document doesn't seem to be updated for SCSI disks so it may be slightly out of date. I don't know what the physical device number for SCSI is supposed to be. As for the other boards, as far as I rembember, the SCSI board is indeed 0 0 7, and the memory card 0 0 0 (will double check when I get home).
	Then pull out any ethernet, PIOC or HDLC-card as there might be address conflicts. I had problem with my ethernet card and couldn't get the machine to boot at first.		Then pull out any ethernet, PIOC or HDLC-card as there might be address conflicts. I had problem with my ethernet card and couldn't get the machine to boot at first.
	I will check the configurations of the other cards when I get back out to the workshop.		I will check the configurations of the other cards when I get back out to the workshop.
	--[[User:Gandalf\|Gandalf]] ([[User talk:Gandalf\|talk]]) 12:01, 26 September 2016 (UTC)		--[[User:Gandalf\|Gandalf]] ([[User talk:Gandalf\|talk]]) 12:01, 26 September 2016 (UTC)
			:Ok, thanks! I will try without those other boards (no PIOC, but I've got two terminal boards - I can presumably run with only the SCSI, Memory and CPU boards).
			:--[[User:TArntsen\|TArntsen]] ([[User talk:TArntsen\|talk]]) 12:45, 26 September 2016 (UTC)

	== Hard drive - figure out SCSI parameters ==		== Hard drive - figure out SCSI parameters ==

Gandalf: Trying to help with the boot problems.

2016-09-26T12:01:40Z

Trying to help with the boot problems.

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			== Boot problems ==

			What is the settings of the CPU card? It might have come from another machine not set up for booting from the SCSI disk. The Satellites have been mixed around a lot and I think I had to add a CPU-card to that machine.
			Looking at pictures from my working one I see
			* Thumb wheel on CPU card 9
			* Thumb wheels on SCSI FLOPPY 0 0 7
			* Thumb wheels on memory card 0 0 0
			Then pull out any ethernet, PIOC or HDLC-card as there might be address conflicts. I had problem with my ethernet card and couldn't get the machine to boot at first.
			I will check the configurations of the other cards when I get back out to the workshop.
			--[[User:Gandalf\|Gandalf]] ([[User talk:Gandalf\|talk]]) 12:01, 26 September 2016 (UTC)

	== Hard drive - figure out SCSI parameters ==		== Hard drive - figure out SCSI parameters ==

Gandalf: The C16 inlet is rare but not obsolete

2016-09-10T11:22:30Z

The C16 inlet is rare but not obsolete

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	Hint: it is possible (but not necessarily suggested) to modify a power cord with a C13 plug to fit into the C16 inlet on the Satellite. --[[User:Tingo\|Torfinn]] ([[User talk:Tingo\|talk]]) 20:23, 8 September 2016 (UTC)		Hint: it is possible (but not necessarily suggested) to modify a power cord with a C13 plug to fit into the C16 inlet on the Satellite. --[[User:Tingo\|Torfinn]] ([[User talk:Tingo\|talk]]) 20:23, 8 September 2016 (UTC)
	:{{done}} with a knife, a drill, and a woodworking tool. [[User:TArntsen\|TArntsen]] ([[User talk:TArntsen\|talk]]) 15:48, 9 September 2016 (UTC)		:{{done}} with a knife, a drill, and a woodworking tool. [[User:TArntsen\|TArntsen]] ([[User talk:TArntsen\|talk]]) 15:48, 9 September 2016 (UTC)
			:I don't know why they used that plug and why some manufacturers still uses it. I recently installed a new HP PoE switch with that plug. I had to borrow the cable from my satellite when configuring the switch. :) --[[User:Gandalf\|Gandalf]] ([[User talk:Gandalf\|talk]]) 11:22, 10 September 2016 (UTC)

Tingo: /* Power chord */ spellling error - it's cord, chord means something different

2016-09-10T10:23:57Z

Power chord: spellling error - it's cord, chord means something different

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	::: I tried [[User:Tingo/setblocksize\|setblocksize]] on the "bricked" drive, and it manged to fix it. I did a SINTRAN install on the drive afterwards. Unfortunately, the machine still fails to boot. either it is still something wrong with the drive settings (parity enable - on or off?), or maybe the SCSI controller on the [[3201]] card is broken? I will image the drive later, so the image can be analyzed. --[[User:Tingo\|Torfinn]] ([[User talk:Tingo\|talk]]) 22:03, 6 September 2016 (UTC)		::: I tried [[User:Tingo/setblocksize\|setblocksize]] on the "bricked" drive, and it manged to fix it. I did a SINTRAN install on the drive afterwards. Unfortunately, the machine still fails to boot. either it is still something wrong with the drive settings (parity enable - on or off?), or maybe the SCSI controller on the [[3201]] card is broken? I will image the drive later, so the image can be analyzed. --[[User:Tingo\|Torfinn]] ([[User talk:Tingo\|talk]]) 22:03, 6 September 2016 (UTC)

	== Power ~~chord~~ ==		== Power cord ==

	Hint: it is possible (but not necessarily suggested) to modify a power ~~chord~~ with a C13 plug to fit into the C16 inlet on the Satellite. --[[User:Tingo\|Torfinn]] ([[User talk:Tingo\|talk]]) 20:23, 8 September 2016 (UTC)		Hint: it is possible (but not necessarily suggested) to modify a power cord with a C13 plug to fit into the C16 inlet on the Satellite. --[[User:Tingo\|Torfinn]] ([[User talk:Tingo\|talk]]) 20:23, 8 September 2016 (UTC)
	:{{done}} with a knife, a drill, and a woodworking tool. [[User:TArntsen\|TArntsen]] ([[User talk:TArntsen\|talk]]) 15:48, 9 September 2016 (UTC)		:{{done}} with a knife, a drill, and a woodworking tool. [[User:TArntsen\|TArntsen]] ([[User talk:TArntsen\|talk]]) 15:48, 9 September 2016 (UTC)

TArntsen: /* Power chord */ Hacked one

2016-09-09T15:48:28Z

Power chord: Hacked one

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	Hint: it is possible (but not necessarily suggested) to modify a power chord with a C13 plug to fit into the C16 inlet on the Satellite. --[[User:Tingo\|Torfinn]] ([[User talk:Tingo\|talk]]) 20:23, 8 September 2016 (UTC)		Hint: it is possible (but not necessarily suggested) to modify a power chord with a C13 plug to fit into the C16 inlet on the Satellite. --[[User:Tingo\|Torfinn]] ([[User talk:Tingo\|talk]]) 20:23, 8 September 2016 (UTC)
			:{{done}} with a knife, a drill, and a woodworking tool. [[User:TArntsen\|TArntsen]] ([[User talk:TArntsen\|talk]]) 15:48, 9 September 2016 (UTC)

Tingo: /* Power chord */ new section

2016-09-08T20:23:58Z

Power chord: new section

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	:: I tried sg_format on a drive, and ended up with a bricked drive. Evidently, not all drives can be reformatted to 1024-byte blocks. More info on my [[User:Tingo/sg3 utils\|sg3_utils]] subpage. --[[User:Tingo\|Torfinn]] ([[User talk:Tingo\|talk]]) 21:57, 4 September 2016 (UTC)		:: I tried sg_format on a drive, and ended up with a bricked drive. Evidently, not all drives can be reformatted to 1024-byte blocks. More info on my [[User:Tingo/sg3 utils\|sg3_utils]] subpage. --[[User:Tingo\|Torfinn]] ([[User talk:Tingo\|talk]]) 21:57, 4 September 2016 (UTC)
	::: I tried [[User:Tingo/setblocksize\|setblocksize]] on the "bricked" drive, and it manged to fix it. I did a SINTRAN install on the drive afterwards. Unfortunately, the machine still fails to boot. either it is still something wrong with the drive settings (parity enable - on or off?), or maybe the SCSI controller on the [[3201]] card is broken? I will image the drive later, so the image can be analyzed. --[[User:Tingo\|Torfinn]] ([[User talk:Tingo\|talk]]) 22:03, 6 September 2016 (UTC)		::: I tried [[User:Tingo/setblocksize\|setblocksize]] on the "bricked" drive, and it manged to fix it. I did a SINTRAN install on the drive afterwards. Unfortunately, the machine still fails to boot. either it is still something wrong with the drive settings (parity enable - on or off?), or maybe the SCSI controller on the [[3201]] card is broken? I will image the drive later, so the image can be analyzed. --[[User:Tingo\|Torfinn]] ([[User talk:Tingo\|talk]]) 22:03, 6 September 2016 (UTC)

			== Power chord ==

			Hint: it is possible (but not necessarily suggested) to modify a power chord with a C13 plug to fit into the C16 inlet on the Satellite. --[[User:Tingo\|Torfinn]] ([[User talk:Tingo\|talk]]) 20:23, 8 September 2016 (UTC)

Tingo: setblocksize changed drive to 1024 byte blocks, but my ND-110 machine still doesn't boot

2016-09-06T22:03:29Z

setblocksize changed drive to 1024 byte blocks, but my ND-110 machine still doesn't boot

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	:sg3_utils with [http://linux.die.net/man/8/sg_format sg_format] in linux can reformat a drive to change block size, see [https://forums.servethehome.com/index.php?threads/how-to-reformat-hdd-ssd-to-512b-sector-size.4968/ this forum post].--[[User:Gandalf\|Gandalf]] ([[User talk:Gandalf\|talk]]) 08:01, 4 September 2016 (UTC)		:sg3_utils with [http://linux.die.net/man/8/sg_format sg_format] in linux can reformat a drive to change block size, see [https://forums.servethehome.com/index.php?threads/how-to-reformat-hdd-ssd-to-512b-sector-size.4968/ this forum post].--[[User:Gandalf\|Gandalf]] ([[User talk:Gandalf\|talk]]) 08:01, 4 September 2016 (UTC)
	:: I tried sg_format on a drive, and ended up with a bricked drive. Evidently, not all drives can be reformatted to 1024-byte blocks. More info on my [[User:Tingo/sg3 utils\|sg3_utils]] subpage. --[[User:Tingo\|Torfinn]] ([[User talk:Tingo\|talk]]) 21:57, 4 September 2016 (UTC)		:: I tried sg_format on a drive, and ended up with a bricked drive. Evidently, not all drives can be reformatted to 1024-byte blocks. More info on my [[User:Tingo/sg3 utils\|sg3_utils]] subpage. --[[User:Tingo\|Torfinn]] ([[User talk:Tingo\|talk]]) 21:57, 4 September 2016 (UTC)
			::: I tried [[User:Tingo/setblocksize\|setblocksize]] on the "bricked" drive, and it manged to fix it. I did a SINTRAN install on the drive afterwards. Unfortunately, the machine still fails to boot. either it is still something wrong with the drive settings (parity enable - on or off?), or maybe the SCSI controller on the [[3201]] card is broken? I will image the drive later, so the image can be analyzed. --[[User:Tingo\|Torfinn]] ([[User talk:Tingo\|talk]]) 22:03, 6 September 2016 (UTC)

Tingo: info about destructive testing with sg_format

2016-09-04T21:57:26Z

info about destructive testing with sg_format

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	Quick update (more later): The drive uses 1024-byte sectors. And it has an ND-specific name. But I believe the 1024-byte sectors are enough to explain the weird image created when you tried to install SINTRAN on a 512byte-sectored disk. Because that's what it looked like. The type etc. probably only matters when formatting. So, try finding a 1024-byte sectored disk, plug it in, install SINTRAN M again, and see how it goes. --[[User:TArntsen\|TArntsen]] ([[User talk:TArntsen\|talk]]) 20:38, 3 September 2016 (UTC)		Quick update (more later): The drive uses 1024-byte sectors. And it has an ND-specific name. But I believe the 1024-byte sectors are enough to explain the weird image created when you tried to install SINTRAN on a 512byte-sectored disk. Because that's what it looked like. The type etc. probably only matters when formatting. So, try finding a 1024-byte sectored disk, plug it in, install SINTRAN M again, and see how it goes. --[[User:TArntsen\|TArntsen]] ([[User talk:TArntsen\|talk]]) 20:38, 3 September 2016 (UTC)
	:sg3_utils with [http://linux.die.net/man/8/sg_format sg_format] in linux can reformat a drive to change block size, see [https://forums.servethehome.com/index.php?threads/how-to-reformat-hdd-ssd-to-512b-sector-size.4968/ this forum post].--[[User:Gandalf\|Gandalf]] ([[User talk:Gandalf\|talk]]) 08:01, 4 September 2016 (UTC)		:sg3_utils with [http://linux.die.net/man/8/sg_format sg_format] in linux can reformat a drive to change block size, see [https://forums.servethehome.com/index.php?threads/how-to-reformat-hdd-ssd-to-512b-sector-size.4968/ this forum post].--[[User:Gandalf\|Gandalf]] ([[User talk:Gandalf\|talk]]) 08:01, 4 September 2016 (UTC)
			:: I tried sg_format on a drive, and ended up with a bricked drive. Evidently, not all drives can be reformatted to 1024-byte blocks. More info on my [[User:Tingo/sg3 utils\|sg3_utils]] subpage. --[[User:Tingo\|Torfinn]] ([[User talk:Tingo\|talk]]) 21:57, 4 September 2016 (UTC)

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	Hint: it is possible (but not necessarily suggested) to modify a power cord with a C13 plug to fit into the C16 inlet on the Satellite. --[[User:Tingo\|Torfinn]] ([[User talk:Tingo\|talk]]) 20:23, 8 September 2016 (UTC)		Hint: it is possible (but not necessarily suggested) to modify a power cord with a C13 plug to fit into the C16 inlet on the Satellite. --[[User:Tingo\|Torfinn]] ([[User talk:Tingo\|talk]]) 20:23, 8 September 2016 (UTC)
	:{{done}} with a knife, a drill, and a woodworking tool. [[User:TArntsen\|TArntsen]] ([[User talk:TArntsen\|talk]]) 15:48, 9 September 2016 (UTC)		:{{done}} with a knife, a drill, and a woodworking tool. [[User:TArntsen\|TArntsen]] ([[User talk:TArntsen\|talk]]) 15:48, 9 September 2016 (UTC)
			:I don't know why they used that plug and why some manufacturers still uses it. I recently installed a new HP PoE switch with that plug. I had to borrow the cable from my satellite when configuring the switch. :) --[[User:Gandalf\|Gandalf]] ([[User talk:Gandalf\|talk]]) 11:22, 10 September 2016 (UTC)

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	:sg3_utils with [http://linux.die.net/man/8/sg_format sg_format] in linux can reformat a drive to change block size, see [https://forums.servethehome.com/index.php?threads/how-to-reformat-hdd-ssd-to-512b-sector-size.4968/ this forum post].--[[User:Gandalf\|Gandalf]] ([[User talk:Gandalf\|talk]]) 08:01, 4 September 2016 (UTC)		:sg3_utils with [http://linux.die.net/man/8/sg_format sg_format] in linux can reformat a drive to change block size, see [https://forums.servethehome.com/index.php?threads/how-to-reformat-hdd-ssd-to-512b-sector-size.4968/ this forum post].--[[User:Gandalf\|Gandalf]] ([[User talk:Gandalf\|talk]]) 08:01, 4 September 2016 (UTC)
	:: I tried sg_format on a drive, and ended up with a bricked drive. Evidently, not all drives can be reformatted to 1024-byte blocks. More info on my [[User:Tingo/sg3 utils\|sg3_utils]] subpage. --[[User:Tingo\|Torfinn]] ([[User talk:Tingo\|talk]]) 21:57, 4 September 2016 (UTC)		:: I tried sg_format on a drive, and ended up with a bricked drive. Evidently, not all drives can be reformatted to 1024-byte blocks. More info on my [[User:Tingo/sg3 utils\|sg3_utils]] subpage. --[[User:Tingo\|Torfinn]] ([[User talk:Tingo\|talk]]) 21:57, 4 September 2016 (UTC)
			::: I tried [[User:Tingo/setblocksize\|setblocksize]] on the "bricked" drive, and it manged to fix it. I did a SINTRAN install on the drive afterwards. Unfortunately, the machine still fails to boot. either it is still something wrong with the drive settings (parity enable - on or off?), or maybe the SCSI controller on the [[3201]] card is broken? I will image the drive later, so the image can be analyzed. --[[User:Tingo\|Torfinn]] ([[User talk:Tingo\|talk]]) 22:03, 6 September 2016 (UTC)

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	Quick update (more later): The drive uses 1024-byte sectors. And it has an ND-specific name. But I believe the 1024-byte sectors are enough to explain the weird image created when you tried to install SINTRAN on a 512byte-sectored disk. Because that's what it looked like. The type etc. probably only matters when formatting. So, try finding a 1024-byte sectored disk, plug it in, install SINTRAN M again, and see how it goes. --[[User:TArntsen\|TArntsen]] ([[User talk:TArntsen\|talk]]) 20:38, 3 September 2016 (UTC)		Quick update (more later): The drive uses 1024-byte sectors. And it has an ND-specific name. But I believe the 1024-byte sectors are enough to explain the weird image created when you tried to install SINTRAN on a 512byte-sectored disk. Because that's what it looked like. The type etc. probably only matters when formatting. So, try finding a 1024-byte sectored disk, plug it in, install SINTRAN M again, and see how it goes. --[[User:TArntsen\|TArntsen]] ([[User talk:TArntsen\|talk]]) 20:38, 3 September 2016 (UTC)
	:sg3_utils with [http://linux.die.net/man/8/sg_format sg_format] in linux can reformat a drive to change block size, see [https://forums.servethehome.com/index.php?threads/how-to-reformat-hdd-ssd-to-512b-sector-size.4968/ this forum post].--[[User:Gandalf\|Gandalf]] ([[User talk:Gandalf\|talk]]) 08:01, 4 September 2016 (UTC)		:sg3_utils with [http://linux.die.net/man/8/sg_format sg_format] in linux can reformat a drive to change block size, see [https://forums.servethehome.com/index.php?threads/how-to-reformat-hdd-ssd-to-512b-sector-size.4968/ this forum post].--[[User:Gandalf\|Gandalf]] ([[User talk:Gandalf\|talk]]) 08:01, 4 September 2016 (UTC)
			:: I tried sg_format on a drive, and ended up with a bricked drive. Evidently, not all drives can be reformatted to 1024-byte blocks. More info on my [[User:Tingo/sg3 utils\|sg3_utils]] subpage. --[[User:Tingo\|Torfinn]] ([[User talk:Tingo\|talk]]) 21:57, 4 September 2016 (UTC)