Talk:ND-06.015 - Revision history

Mike: Good name

2008-11-06T00:28:23Z

Good name

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	::I made two templates, <nowiki>{{DocStart}} and {{DocEnd}}</nowiki>, to use instead of the <nowiki><pre></nowiki>-tag. Now we can do linking in the text. Is DocStart/DocEnd good describing names? If not, let's change them. [[User:Mike\|Mike]] 13:25, 5 November 2008 (UTC)		::I made two templates, <nowiki>{{DocStart}} and {{DocEnd}}</nowiki>, to use instead of the <nowiki><pre></nowiki>-tag. Now we can do linking in the text. Is DocStart/DocEnd good describing names? If not, let's change them. [[User:Mike\|Mike]] 13:25, 5 November 2008 (UTC)
	:::Great! The [[User:Mike\|guru]] has spoken! I have spent hours trying to accomplish that effect and all I got was headache. About the name... how about call it DocPreStart / DocPreEnd if we want more document templates? [[User:Gandalf\|Gandalf]] 21:34, 5 November 2008 (UTC)		:::Great! The [[User:Mike\|guru]] has spoken! I have spent hours trying to accomplish that effect and all I got was headache. About the name... how about call it DocPreStart / DocPreEnd if we want more document templates? [[User:Gandalf\|Gandalf]] 21:34, 5 November 2008 (UTC)
			::::That was a good name! They are now renamed. As I was deleting files I had made by mistake, I found a red link ([[:NDWiki:Policy]]) that's not red anymore. :-) [[User:Mike\|Mike]] 00:28, 6 November 2008 (UTC)

Gandalf: More discussions...

2008-11-05T21:34:55Z

More discussions...

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	should be done through templates of some form. [[User:Roger\|Roger]] 10:32, 29 October 2008 (WDT)		should be done through templates of some form. [[User:Roger\|Roger]] 10:32, 29 October 2008 (WDT)

	:Since none have come up with a better solution I decided to go with the "pre" style and get the data up. I have checked wikipedia and "pre" isn't that rare, especially in code and algorithms.[[User:Gandalf\|Gandalf]] 10:35, 5 November 2008 (UTC)		:Since none have come up with a better solution I decided to go with the "pre" style and get the data up. I have checked wikipedia and "pre" isn't that rare, especially in code and algorithms. [[User:Gandalf\|Gandalf]] 10:35, 5 November 2008 (UTC)
	::I made two templates, <nowiki>{{DocStart}} and {{DocEnd}}</nowiki>, to use instead of the <nowiki><pre></nowiki>-tag. Now we can do linking in the text. Is DocStart/DocEnd good describing names? If not, let's change them. [[User:Mike\|Mike]] 13:25, 5 November 2008 (UTC)		::I made two templates, <nowiki>{{DocStart}} and {{DocEnd}}</nowiki>, to use instead of the <nowiki><pre></nowiki>-tag. Now we can do linking in the text. Is DocStart/DocEnd good describing names? If not, let's change them. [[User:Mike\|Mike]] 13:25, 5 November 2008 (UTC)
			:::Great! The [[User:Mike\|guru]] has spoken! I have spent hours trying to accomplish that effect and all I got was headache. About the name... how about call it DocPreStart / DocPreEnd if we want more document templates? [[User:Gandalf\|Gandalf]] 21:34, 5 November 2008 (UTC)

Mike: replace pre with DocStart and DocEnd

2008-11-05T13:25:47Z

replace pre with DocStart and DocEnd

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	:Since none have come up with a better solution I decided to go with the "pre" style and get the data up. I have checked wikipedia and "pre" isn't that rare, especially in code and algorithms.[[User:Gandalf\|Gandalf]] 10:35, 5 November 2008 (UTC)		:Since none have come up with a better solution I decided to go with the "pre" style and get the data up. I have checked wikipedia and "pre" isn't that rare, especially in code and algorithms.[[User:Gandalf\|Gandalf]] 10:35, 5 November 2008 (UTC)
			::I made two templates, <nowiki>{{DocStart}} and {{DocEnd}}</nowiki>, to use instead of the <nowiki><pre></nowiki>-tag. Now we can do linking in the text. Is DocStart/DocEnd good describing names? If not, let's change them. [[User:Mike\|Mike]] 13:25, 5 November 2008 (UTC)

Gandalf: Discussion of styles

2008-11-05T10:35:44Z

Discussion of styles

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	I don't think text should be formatted by hand, it comes from the wysiwyg world. All formatting in my view		I don't think text should be formatted by hand, it comes from the wysiwyg world. All formatting in my view
	should be done through templates of some form. [[User:Roger\|Roger]] 10:32, 29 October 2008 (WDT)		should be done through templates of some form. [[User:Roger\|Roger]] 10:32, 29 October 2008 (WDT)

			:Since none have come up with a better solution I decided to go with the "pre" style and get the data up. I have checked wikipedia and "pre" isn't that rare, especially in code and algorithms.[[User:Gandalf\|Gandalf]] 10:35, 5 November 2008 (UTC)

Roger at 05:05, 29 October 2008

2008-10-29T05:05:02Z

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	:::I don't have any good solution for the moment, but I'll think something out. [[User:Mike\|Mike]] 23:36, 28 October 2008 (UTC)		:::I don't have any good solution for the moment, but I'll think something out. [[User:Mike\|Mike]] 23:36, 28 October 2008 (UTC)

	~~Text~~ should ~~not~~ be formatted by hand, it comes from the wysiwyg world. All formatting in my view		I don't think text should be formatted by hand, it comes from the wysiwyg world. All formatting in my view
	should be done through templates of some form. [[User:Roger\|Roger]] 10:32, 29 October 2008 (WDT)		should be done through templates of some form. [[User:Roger\|Roger]] 10:32, 29 October 2008 (WDT)

Roger at 01:35, 29 October 2008

2008-10-29T01:35:13Z

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	Text should not be formatted by hand, it comes from the wysiwyg world. All formatting in my view		Text should not be formatted by hand, it comes from the wysiwyg world. All formatting in my view
	should be done through templates of some form.		should be done through templates of some form. [[User:Roger\|Roger]] 10:32, 29 October 2008 (WDT)

Roger at 01:33, 29 October 2008

2008-10-29T01:33:05Z

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	:::I don't have any good solution for the moment, but I'll think something out. [[User:Mike\|Mike]] 23:36, 28 October 2008 (UTC)		:::I don't have any good solution for the moment, but I'll think something out. [[User:Mike\|Mike]] 23:36, 28 October 2008 (UTC)

			Text should not be formatted by hand, it comes from the wysiwyg world. All formatting in my view
			should be done through templates of some form.

Mike: formatting: I'll think something out.

2008-10-28T23:36:52Z

formatting: I'll think something out.

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	::I agree that the biggest drawback is no links and other stuff when you use "pre" but I haven't managed to find a good enough alternative yet. I have tried the [[:Template:DocDescr]] but I keep coming back to the same problem, unreadable bullet lists or using "pre" inside the template. Usage of "pre" is Q&D (tm) and the style gives a feeling for how the manuals are written too. I try to avoid it as much as possible but I have spent hours on formatting text without accomplish anything. Mike, you are the guru, show us how it should be done by formatting a third copy of the index the right way and then we could compare and vote.[[User:Gandalf\|Gandalf]] 17:59, 28 October 2008 (UTC)		::I agree that the biggest drawback is no links and other stuff when you use "pre" but I haven't managed to find a good enough alternative yet. I have tried the [[:Template:DocDescr]] but I keep coming back to the same problem, unreadable bullet lists or using "pre" inside the template. Usage of "pre" is Q&D (tm) and the style gives a feeling for how the manuals are written too. I try to avoid it as much as possible but I have spent hours on formatting text without accomplish anything. Mike, you are the guru, show us how it should be done by formatting a third copy of the index the right way and then we could compare and vote.[[User:Gandalf\|Gandalf]] 17:59, 28 October 2008 (UTC)

			:::I don't have any good solution for the moment, but I'll think something out. [[User:Mike\|Mike]] 23:36, 28 October 2008 (UTC)

Gandalf: Discussion of styles

2008-10-28T17:59:42Z

Discussion of styles

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	:I think a (over) usage of "pre" is bad, since you can't do links or templates within. On the other hand I agree that it looks good. One idea is to remove the CSS stuff from the "pre" tag and use the [[:Template:DocDescr]] for graphical layout. HTML in the documents is something we should avoid. [[User:Mike\|Mike]] 14:07, 28 October 2008 (UTC)		:I think a (over) usage of "pre" is bad, since you can't do links or templates within. On the other hand I agree that it looks good. One idea is to remove the CSS stuff from the "pre" tag and use the [[:Template:DocDescr]] for graphical layout. HTML in the documents is something we should avoid. [[User:Mike\|Mike]] 14:07, 28 October 2008 (UTC)

			::I agree that the biggest drawback is no links and other stuff when you use "pre" but I haven't managed to find a good enough alternative yet. I have tried the [[:Template:DocDescr]] but I keep coming back to the same problem, unreadable bullet lists or using "pre" inside the template. Usage of "pre" is Q&D (tm) and the style gives a feeling for how the manuals are written too. I try to avoid it as much as possible but I have spent hours on formatting text without accomplish anything. Mike, you are the guru, show us how it should be done by formatting a third copy of the index the right way and then we could compare and vote.[[User:Gandalf\|Gandalf]] 17:59, 28 October 2008 (UTC)

Mike: the pre tag and CSS?

2008-10-28T14:07:35Z

the pre tag and CSS?

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	I have left two different styles for TOC. Which should we use? I think the preformatted has a better look and the numbering scheme is better as the capters in the manuals are numbered in that way. [[User:Gandalf\|Gandalf]] 00:26, 28 October 2008 (UTC)		I have left two different styles for TOC. Which should we use? I think the preformatted has a better look and the numbering scheme is better as the capters in the manuals are numbered in that way. [[User:Gandalf\|Gandalf]] 00:26, 28 October 2008 (UTC)

			:I think a (over) usage of "pre" is bad, since you can't do links or templates within. On the other hand I agree that it looks good. One idea is to remove the CSS stuff from the "pre" tag and use the [[:Template:DocDescr]] for graphical layout. HTML in the documents is something we should avoid. [[User:Mike\|Mike]] 14:07, 28 October 2008 (UTC)

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	::I made two templates, <nowiki>{{DocStart}} and {{DocEnd}}</nowiki>, to use instead of the <nowiki><pre></nowiki>-tag. Now we can do linking in the text. Is DocStart/DocEnd good describing names? If not, let's change them. [[User:Mike\|Mike]] 13:25, 5 November 2008 (UTC)		::I made two templates, <nowiki>{{DocStart}} and {{DocEnd}}</nowiki>, to use instead of the <nowiki><pre></nowiki>-tag. Now we can do linking in the text. Is DocStart/DocEnd good describing names? If not, let's change them. [[User:Mike\|Mike]] 13:25, 5 November 2008 (UTC)
	:::Great! The [[User:Mike\|guru]] has spoken! I have spent hours trying to accomplish that effect and all I got was headache. About the name... how about call it DocPreStart / DocPreEnd if we want more document templates? [[User:Gandalf\|Gandalf]] 21:34, 5 November 2008 (UTC)		:::Great! The [[User:Mike\|guru]] has spoken! I have spent hours trying to accomplish that effect and all I got was headache. About the name... how about call it DocPreStart / DocPreEnd if we want more document templates? [[User:Gandalf\|Gandalf]] 21:34, 5 November 2008 (UTC)
			::::That was a good name! They are now renamed. As I was deleting files I had made by mistake, I found a red link ([[:NDWiki:Policy]]) that's not red anymore. :-) [[User:Mike\|Mike]] 00:28, 6 November 2008 (UTC)

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	should be done through templates of some form. [[User:Roger\|Roger]] 10:32, 29 October 2008 (WDT)		should be done through templates of some form. [[User:Roger\|Roger]] 10:32, 29 October 2008 (WDT)

	:Since none have come up with a better solution I decided to go with the "pre" style and get the data up. I have checked wikipedia and "pre" isn't that rare, especially in code and algorithms.[[User:Gandalf\|Gandalf]] 10:35, 5 November 2008 (UTC)		:Since none have come up with a better solution I decided to go with the "pre" style and get the data up. I have checked wikipedia and "pre" isn't that rare, especially in code and algorithms. [[User:Gandalf\|Gandalf]] 10:35, 5 November 2008 (UTC)
	::I made two templates, <nowiki>{{DocStart}} and {{DocEnd}}</nowiki>, to use instead of the <nowiki><pre></nowiki>-tag. Now we can do linking in the text. Is DocStart/DocEnd good describing names? If not, let's change them. [[User:Mike\|Mike]] 13:25, 5 November 2008 (UTC)		::I made two templates, <nowiki>{{DocStart}} and {{DocEnd}}</nowiki>, to use instead of the <nowiki><pre></nowiki>-tag. Now we can do linking in the text. Is DocStart/DocEnd good describing names? If not, let's change them. [[User:Mike\|Mike]] 13:25, 5 November 2008 (UTC)
			:::Great! The [[User:Mike\|guru]] has spoken! I have spent hours trying to accomplish that effect and all I got was headache. About the name... how about call it DocPreStart / DocPreEnd if we want more document templates? [[User:Gandalf\|Gandalf]] 21:34, 5 November 2008 (UTC)