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In The future

Soon I will move this wiki to a somewhat more powerful server and it's going to be upgraded to the latest version. /Mike 09:57, 9 January 2012 (CET)

The harddrive died before I was ready with the trasition. I have a daily backup of database but the images is not in the database and the last backup of the pictures is from 2010. So the following pictures is now missing in the wiki:
Uploader Tingo
3041-nd100-st506-disk-controller.jpg

3042-nd100-2Mbyte-memory.jpg

3104-nd100-memory-management-ii.jpg

3112-nd100-8-and-5.25-inch-floppy-streamer-controller.jpg

3009-nd100-daughtercard-2.jpg

3009-nd100-daughtercard-1.jpg

3033-nd100-cpu-cx-card.jpg

3009_nd100_local_io.jpg
Uploader TArntsen
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/Mike 01:09, 2 February 2012 (CET)

Thanks to TArntsen and Tingo for restoring the missing images. The wiki is now complete (unless some edits is missing between January 18 - 20?). /Mike 20:21, 2 February 2012 (CET)

Names on Monitor Call

I plan to make a list of monitor calls, but some of the names are already taken, so what should we call the monitor call articles? Here is the list I compiled:

I had in mind something about the monitor calls quite some time ago, but the naming stopped me for the same reason - I anticipated a future collision between e.g. ABORT the command and ABORT the monitor call. A prefix or something maybe? I'm on thin ice here as far as my MediaWiki-fu is concerned, but I notice some of the Sintran commands Tingo is adding have a qualifier.
Back when I was thinking about monitor calls I wanted a table of short name, a table of long names (INBT -> InByte -> 1B and so on), and some link between them. And don't forget the 500-only calls.. those with numbers >377B --TArntsen 12:32, 25 August 2012 (UTC)
An idea.. maybe let the actual Wiki page always use the "long" name, add long names to the table, and let both long and short names point to the long name Wiki page? That would imply slightly more writing work when writing the table, but not much. There shouldn't be any problem having pages with names like 'GetStartByte', presumably? I looked through the table of monitor calls and I don't think those long names will collide with any SINTRAN command name or anything else. --TArntsen 12:37, 25 August 2012 (UTC)
How about adding qualifiers "(command)", "(monitor call)" and so on where needed, and let the "straight" page list the various alternatives? For example: "ABORT - may refer to the ABORT command, ABORT monitor call, ...". A bit more work, and we need to agree on a standard way to do it, but still. --Torfinn 15:39, 25 August 2012 (UTC)
Thanks for the feedback! In what document(s) do we have the complete list with descriptions of the monitor calls? Should each monitor call have their own page or is one table or two enough? With a table it's still possible to make a #REDIRECT for each call, i.e "INBT" and "MON 1" will redirect to the page with the table of monitor calls and the ABORT page will have a first line "For the ABORT monitor call (MON 105) see Monitor calls." (or some better name of that page). I can make the redirect pages in a batch, if needed. /Mike 22:33, 27 August 2012 (UTC)
The Norsk Data Document ND–60.128.01 SINTRAN III REFERENCE MANUAL has a chapter on monitor calls, I don't know if it is complete, but (in my copy at least - printed June 1980) it looks like only the ND-100 monitor calls. --Torfinn 20:42, 17 December 2012 (CET)
TArntsen: ND added a new document which (almost) only described monitor calls, it's Norsk Data Document ND–860228.2 SINTRAN III Monitor Calls from 1988 (first version came in 1986). The first variant of this document was called 60.228 (download link to that one is below). The original Sintran Reference 60.128 which Tingo refers to was eventually changed to 860128 and monitor calls split out to (at first 60.228, then later) 860228, SINTRAN III Monitor Calls. This document includes almost all monitor calls, including ND-500 calls, and with examples. There are a few undocumented missing calls though, a couple of them are just barely mentioned in release notes but that's about it. I've been digging through a lot of stuff over the last years to figure out the undocumented ones (including reading SINTRAN listings). Some I have figured out, but a couple remain elusive. List of some of the officially undocumented calls are (in octal): 15 (this may not exist), 25 (SETW), 42 (Old OPEN), 45 (DBRK/DefineBreakPoint on ND-100, GTYPR/GetTypring on ND-500), 46 (GBRK/GetBreakPointInfo), 47 (SBRK/SetBreakPointInfo), 51 (DMAC/DMACBreakPoint), 52 (MTERM|TERMO, TERMINAL-MODE), 511 (combination of 503/504), 512 (XMSG for ND-500), 513 (Unknown, possibly also XMSG for ND-500). So: I have a copy of 860228.2, but it's a thick A5 book, not a binder, I can't scan it without cutting the binding which I don't want to do at this point. BUT I also have an A4 binder version of the older 60.228.1 version which I have scanned, I can provide a link but a better one for reading on-screen is probably Jonny Oddene's more light-weight scan: Software Library:ND-60228-1-EN.pdf. It is from 1986 and presumably very similar to version 1 of the 860228 document which is also from 1986. It includes the ND-500 monitor calls. (Actually when I said "almost only monitor calls" it's not entirely true - these documents include great appendixes which describe internal SINTRAN structures like filesystem layout etc). --TArntsen 22:00, 19 December 2012 (CET)
Name(sort) Number Remark Name Number(sort) Remark
ABORT 105 rf LEAVE 0 brf
ABSET 102 rf INBT 1 brf
ABSTR 131 rf OUTBT 2 brf
ACM 145 brf ECHOM 3 brf
AlRDW 37 rf BRKM 4 brf
ALTOF 34 brf RDISK 5 b
ALTON 33 brf WDISK 6 b
APSPF 240 br RPAGE 7 br
ASSIG 154 rf WPAGE 10 br
B41NW 63 br TIME 11 brf
B8INB 23 br SETCM 12 b
B80UT 24 br ClBUF 13 brf
BCLOS 252 br COBUF 14 brf
BRKM 4 brf MGTW 16 brf
CAMAC 147 rf MSTTY 17 brf
ClBUF 13 brf WCI 20 b
CLADJ 112 rf M8INB 21 br
CLOCK 113 brf M80UT 22 br
CLOSE 43 br B8INB 23 br
COBUF 14 brf B80UT 24 br
COMND 70 bf SETW 25 b
CONCT 106 rf LASTC 26 rf
COPAG 251 br RTDSC 27 rf
CPUST 262 GETRT 30 brf
CRALF 221 br EXlOX 31 brf
CRALN 253 br MSG 32 bf
DABST 127 rf ALTON 33 brf
DBRK 45 b ALTOF 34 brf
DEABF 256 br IOUT 35 bf
DELPG 272 br NOWT 36 brf
DESCF 71 brf AlRDW 37 rf
DlNTV 130 rf SPCLO 40 brf
DIW 165 rf ROBJE 41 brf
DLOFU 277 b OPEN 42 br
DMAC 51 b CLOSE 43 br
DOLW 166 rf RUSER 44 brf
DOPEN 220 br DBRK 45 b
DROBJ 215 br GBRK 46 b
DSCNT 107 rf SBRK 47 b
DSET 126 rf OPEN 50 br
DUSEL 301 b DMAC 51 b
DWOBJ 216 br TERMo 52 brf
ECHOM 3 brf RSEGM 53 r
EDTRM 206 br MDLFI 54 brf
EESCF 72 brf RSPQE 55 br
ELOFF 303 b PASET 56 bf
ELOFU 276 b PAGET 57 bf
ELON 302 b N500M 60 r
ENTSG 157 rf FIXC5 61 r
ERMON 142 rf RMAX 62 brf
ERMSG 64 brf B41NW 63 br
EUSEL 300 b ERMSG 64 brf
EXlOX 31 brf QERMS 65 brf
EXPFl 231 br ISIZE 66 brf
FDFDl 250 br OSIZE 67 brf
FDlNA 243 br COMND 70 bf
FIX 115 rf DESCF 71 brf
FIXC 160 rf EESCF 72 brf
FIXC5 61 r SMAX 73 brf
FOBJN 274 br SETBT 74 brf
FOPFN 257 br REABT 75 brf
GBRK 46 b SETBS 76 brf
GBSIZ 222 b SETBL 77 brf
GDEVT 263 RT 100 rf
GDIEN 244 br SET 101 rf
GERDV 254 ABSET 102 rf
GETRT 30 brf INTV 103 rf
GL 150 rf HOLD 104 brf
GNAEN 245 br ABORT 105 rf
GRAPHIC 155 brf CONCT 106 rf
GRTDA 151 rf DSCNT 107 rf
GRTNA 152 r PRIOR 110 rf
GTMOD 306 br UPDAT 111 rf
GUIOI 217 br CLADJ 112 rf
GUSNA 214 br CLOCK 113 brf
HOLD 104 brf TUSED 114 bf
IBRSIZ 313 br FIX 115 rf
INBT 1 brf UNFIX 116 rf
INSTR 161 brf RFILE 117 brf
INTV 103 rf WFILE 120 brf
IOSET 141 brf WAITF 121 rf
IOUT 35 bf RESRV 122 brf
IOXN 153 rf RELES 123 brf
IPRIV 146 r PRSRV 124 rf
ISIZE 66 brf PRLS 125 rf
LASTC 26 rf DSET 126 rf
LEAVE 0 brf DABST 127 rf
M8INB 21 br DlNTV 130 rf
M80UT 22 br ABSTR 131 rf
MAGTP 144 brf MCALL 132 r
MAPSIB 304 br MEXIT 133 rf
MCALL 132 r RTEXT 134 brf
MDLFI 54 brf RTWT 135 rf
MEXIT 133 rf RTON 136 rf
MGDAE 230 br RTOFF 137 rf
MGFIL 273 br WHDEV 140 rf
MGTW 16 brf IOSET 141 brf
MHDLC 201 br ERMON 142 rf
MOlNF 312 br RSIO 143 bf
MRNFI 232 br MAGTP 144 brf
MSDAE 277 br ACM 145 brf
MSG 32 bf IPRIV 146 r
MSIBB 305 br CAMAC 147 rf
MSTTY 17 brf GL 150 rf
MUIDI 213 br GRTDA 151 rf
N500M 60 r GRTNA 152 r
NOWT 36 brf IOXN 153 rf
OPEN 42 br ASSIG 154 rf
OPEN 50 br GRAPHIC 155 brf
OSIZE 67 brf TRACB 156 br
OUTBT 2 brf ENTSG 157 rf
OUTST 162 brf FIXC 160 rf
PAGET 57 bf INSTR 161 brf
PASET 56 bf OUTST 162 brf
PIOCM 255 WRQI 163 brf
PRIOR 110 rf WSEG 164 rf
PRLS 125 rf DIW 165 rf
PRSRV 124 rf DOLW 166 rf
QERMS 65 brf REENT 167 rf
RDISK 5 b US0 170 r
RDPAG 270 br US1 171 r
REABT 75 brf US2 172 r
REDIR 246 br US3 173 r
REENT 167 rf US4 174 r
RELES 123 brf US5 175 r
RERRP 207 br US6 176 r
RESRV 122 brf US7 177 r
RFILE 117 brf XMSG 200 br
RLDIR 247 br MHDLC 201 br
RMAX 62 brf EDTRM 206 br
ROBJE 41 brf RERRP 207 br
RPAGE 7 br SREEN 212 br
RSEGM 53 r MUIDI 213 br
RSIO 143 bf GUSNA 214 br
RSPQE 55 br DROBJ 215 br
RT 100 rf DWOBJ 216 br
RTDSC 27 rf GUIOI 217 br
RTEXT 134 brf DOPEN 220 br
RTOFF 137 rf CRALF 221 br
RTON 136 rf GBSIZ 222 b
RTWT 135 rf MGDAE 230 br
RUSCN 242 b EXPFl 231 br
RUSER 44 brf MRNFI 232 br
SBRK 47 b SPEFI 234 br
SCROP 235 br SCROP 235 br
SET 101 rf SPERD 236 br
SETBL 77 brf SFACC 237 br
SETBS 76 brf APSPF 240 br
SETBT 74 brf SUSCN 241 b
SETCM 12 b RUSCN 242 b
SETW 25 b FDlNA 243 br
SFACC 237 br GDIEN 244 br
SMAX 73 brf GNAEN 245 br
SPCLO 40 brf REDIR 246 br
SPEFI 234 br RLDIR 247 br
SPERD 236 br FDFDl 250 br
SREEN 212 br COPAG 251 br
SRUSI 314 br BCLOS 252 br
STEFI 275 r CRALN 253 br
SUSCN 241 b GERDV 254
SYCNT 261 PIOCM 255
T8INB 310 br DEABF 256 br
TERMo 52 brf FOPFN 257 br
TIME 11 brf USCNT 260
TMOUT 267 SYCNT 261
TNDWAI 307 br CPUST 262
TRACB 156 br GDEVT 263
TUSED 114 bf 500RF 264
UNFIX 116 rf 500WF 265
UPDAT 111 rf 500MT 266
US0 170 r TMOUT 267
US1 171 r RDPAG 270 br
US2 172 r WDPAG 271 br
US3 173 r DELPG 272 br
US4 174 r MGFIL 273 br
US5 175 r FOBJN 274 br
US6 176 r STEFI 275 r
US7 177 r ELOFU 276 b
USCNT 260 DLOFU 277 b
WAITF 121 rf MSDAE 277 br
WCI 20 b EUSEL 300 b
WDIEN 311 r DUSEL 301 b
WDISK 6 b ELON 302 b
WDPAG 271 br ELOFF 303 b
WFILE 120 brf MAPSIB 304 br
WHDEV 140 rf MSIBB 305 br
WPAGE 10 br GTMOD 306 br
WRQI 163 brf TNDWAI 307 br
WSEG 164 rf T8INB 310 br
XMSG 200 br WDIEN 311 r
500MT 266 MOlNF 312 br
500RF 264 IBRSIZ 313 br
500WF 265 SRUSI 314 br
I added one disambiguation page, check out the ENTSG page and see how you like it. --Torfinn (talk) 22:21, 21 December 2013 (UTC