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As for reading Sintran file systems copied off floppy disks, I have written a tool to do that. I will update the page later with a link etc. [[User:TArntsen|TArntsen]] 18:58, 27 August 2009 (UTC)
As for reading Sintran file systems copied off floppy disks, I have written a tool to do that. I will update the page later with a link etc. [[User:TArntsen|TArntsen]] 18:58, 27 August 2009 (UTC)
:Did this update (with the link to the tool) ever happen? [[User:Tingo|Torfinn]] 22:38, 30 August 2011 (CEST)
:Me too! Although, it is in a serious hardcoded mess right now but I will clean it up. As the floppy disks uses the same layout as a full Sintran system my code should be able to extract all files from any disk image. [[User:Gandalf|Gandalf]] 11:42, 28 August 2009 (UTC)
:Me too! Although, it is in a serious hardcoded mess right now but I will clean it up. As the floppy disks uses the same layout as a full Sintran system my code should be able to extract all files from any disk image. [[User:Gandalf|Gandalf]] 11:42, 28 August 2009 (UTC)
::Same here, it supports subindexed files for example, which isn't often seen on floppies (as that is only used for files above 1MB in size). I have tested the tool with floppies with contiguous files (most ND floppies) and indexed files. Now if I could just find a CCT drive so that I could copy off one of my actual disc images :-)  [[User:TArntsen|TArntsen]] 12:05, 28 August 2009 (UTC)
::Same here, it supports subindexed files for example, which isn't often seen on floppies (as that is only used for files above 1MB in size). I have tested the tool with floppies with contiguous files (most ND floppies) and indexed files. Now if I could just find a CCT drive so that I could copy off one of my actual disc images :-)  [[User:TArntsen|TArntsen]] 12:05, 28 August 2009 (UTC)

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As for reading Sintran file systems copied off floppy disks, I have written a tool to do that. I will update the page later with a link etc. TArntsen 18:58, 27 August 2009 (UTC)

Did this update (with the link to the tool) ever happen? Torfinn 22:38, 30 August 2011 (CEST)
Me too! Although, it is in a serious hardcoded mess right now but I will clean it up. As the floppy disks uses the same layout as a full Sintran system my code should be able to extract all files from any disk image. Gandalf 11:42, 28 August 2009 (UTC)
Same here, it supports subindexed files for example, which isn't often seen on floppies (as that is only used for files above 1MB in size). I have tested the tool with floppies with contiguous files (most ND floppies) and indexed files. Now if I could just find a CCT drive so that I could copy off one of my actual disc images :-) TArntsen 12:05, 28 August 2009 (UTC)
Use this fresh one I found in my satellite a couple of days ago. Image directory --Gandalf 12:35, 28 August 2009 (UTC)
The link seems broken now (ok, it has been a couple of years). Can it be fixed? Torfinn 00:55, 30 August 2011 (CEST)
He's got a disk crash. I'll send you a private msg for a temporary copy. --TArntsen 10:12, 30 August 2011 (CEST)
Thanks for sharing! I already found a problem in my user file handling. TArntsen 14:29, 28 August 2009 (UTC)
Now fixed! :-) DoneDone TArntsen 15:04, 28 August 2009 (UTC)

Adding references

I didn't get a new reference added correctly. Is it possible to use <ref>{{ND-Doc|nn.yy}}</ref>
at all? In this case it was a doc not in the document list. So I added it (60.250), which didn't help,
and I tried adding it manually in Refereces just like the three others. Didn't work. So I've got two
questions really.. first, the one about doc refs inside <ref> tags, and secondly if there's more to
adding documents to the document page in order to get the {{ND-Doc} thingy to work.. 

TArntsen 08:57, 31 August 2009 (UTC)

To get the ND-doc thingy to work you have to enter the document number into the ND-doc-lookup template too. I've been a bit lazy lately and haven't added new documents to the lookup table yet. I'll go through the list of known documents when I have finished the inventory of my library. It's all in a number of boxes stuffed in a room I let in a basement. It will probably be a work for some cold winter days. :-)
I've fixed the current reference. DoneDone Gandalf 12:17, 31 August 2009 (UTC)

Is it possible to write a ND floppy on a Linux machine?

If I have a Linux machine with a 5.25 inch floppy drive, can I write a ND-format floppy with it? Torfinn 00:59, 30 August 2011 (CEST)

Presumably yes. I have not tried this (for the obvious reason that I don't have an ND computer anymore..), but by using 'setfdprpm' as described, and 'dd' to write in the other direction, it should in prinicple work. The problem may be to format the floppy if you don't already have a floppy formatted correctly. But if you want to write an ND floppy it must be because you have an ND to read it (with a correct drive), and then the floppy can be formatted there first. And in any case, if you can connect an 5.25" floppy to an ND computer then it is always possible to write any PC format to the floppy on a PC, read it on the ND (with low-level commands), and write it back in a format SINTRAN likes. In short, as soon as you have a 5.25" floppy drive connected to an ND computer you're all set.. --TArntsen 10:09, 30 August 2011 (CEST)